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Kalle Laihonen



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PostPosted: 02.05.2006 16:06    Post subject: Bhutanilaista jousiammuntaa Reply with quote

Tässä muutamia kuvia viime syksyltä Bhutanista. Kummisetäni otti muutaman kuvan paikallisesta kilpailusta siellä käydessään. Sanoi kysyneensä oppaaltaan, että miten nuo kisailijat uskaltavat olla noin lähellä maalia kun vastustaja ampuu. Opas ei ollut ymmärtänyt, että siinä olisi mitään ihmeellistä, turvallisuusnormit hieman eri luokkaa tai ainakin ampujat todella tarkkoja.
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Simo Hankaniemi



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PostPosted: 02.05.2006 16:12    Post subject: bhutan Reply with quote

Kiva kuvasarja. Hyvä itseluottamus pojilla, jos uskaltavat olla noinkin lähellä maalia. Vaikka kyllähän nuolen lennon näkee hyvin tuolta etäisyydeltä.
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Tuukka Kumpulainen



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PostPosted: 08.05.2006 14:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ekan kuvan ampujan asento on hyvin muodollisen ja "rakennetun" oloinen. Ja hyvästä syystä, keppijousella ei sataan jaardiin osuta ihan millä tahansa säveltämisellä.
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Mika



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PostPosted: 26.05.2006 20:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

Onko jollakin laittaa tarkempia kuvia Bhutanilaisen jousesta ? Tiedän millainen jousi on, mutten ole tarkempia kuvia koskaan nähnyt, tai tuollaista jousta lähempää.

Vaikkakin olen kyllä joskus tehnyt tuon tapaisen jousen testimielessä ja testiksi jäikin...
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Mika



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PostPosted: 07.06.2006 20:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bhutan Archery Federations (BAF) Traditional Bows and Arrows
1. Bows
The average length of the traditional unbraced sporting bow is 72.5 CMS. The weight of the traditional bow varies between 490 to 500 gms. This bow tapers from 5 CMS in circumference, measured from the end of the lower horn, to 1 cm at the tip of the upper horn. The horns. The horns of a bow are called ?Shalu? in Dzongkha. The bow is broadest at its belly measuring, 3.5 CMS in width. It is here that the grip, or ?jangshi?, of light willow wood (20.5 to 24 CMS in length and 3.5 CMS in width) is attached.
The bows string, or ?Zhu-tha?, is obtained from the fibre of the gaint stinging nettle, locally known as ?Zoeche?. In recent years, jute string zhu-tha have also been used. Such bow strings may last through one contest, during which an archer may release as many as one hundred arrows. This bowstring must withstand pressure of up to 60 lbs., drawn with a cast of 145 meters. The bow string is adjusted to suit the needs of the archer by either twisting or loosening the string, creating either a tauter or more flaccid resistance.

The bowstring is braced with the help of the knee by exerting pressure on the belly of the bow. The large eyelet of the bow string grips the nock of the lower horn, and as the bow is braced, the upper eyelet is slipped over the top horn and engaged in the nock. The bow is braced and drawn contrary to the natural curve of the

2. Arrows
The length of the ?Dha?, or arrow, is generally 80 cms, weighing between 20 and 25gms. The shaft is made from a reed (Hema) obtained from the foothills of Bhutan. The head, or ?Dhacha?, which is 1cm in diameter, is affixed to the shaft of the arrow with either sealing wax or lachu.
The fletching or feathering extends 12 cms along the shaft. There are four vanes of feathers in the arrow. The feathers used for the indigenous arrows are obtained from the primary feathers of a pheasant. The four vanes are glued to the shaft at right angles by means of ?Cheyene?, a Bhutanese adhesive obtained from animal hide. The space below the vanes is colored black. The crest or pung of the arrows usually consists of 7 colored rings of silk thread.

The shaft ends in a nock cut into the reed to the depth of 7 mm. It is in the ?Tong?, or nock, that the bowstring fits when the bow is drawn.

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jkekoni



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PostPosted: 08.06.2006 09:48    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mitä on gms ja cms ?
Grammaa ja centtimetriä?
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PostPosted: 08.06.2006 21:34    Post subject: Reply with quote

Päättele asiayhteydestä ja eiköhän.
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Mika



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PostPosted: 09.06.2006 10:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

Edellinen vieras tulee kuitattua tässä... tuo on ihan vain jonkun amerikkailaista syntyperää tai aasialaisen käännös lyhenteistä päätellen.
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Mangrove



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PostPosted: 28.09.2009 22:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eräitä aikalaiskuvauksia;

Samuel, T. 1800. Account of an Embassy to the Court of the Teshoo Lama in Tibet. London. Sivut 118-119.

The accoutrements of a fighting man, fully equipped, are extremely cumbrous. [...] To these arms must be added, a bow, and a quiver of arrows, slung by a belt behind the back; the arrows being commodiously drawn from it over the left shoulder. The bow is held in the right hand; it is commonly six feet long, made of bamboo, and, when unstrung, is perfectly straight. The bowstring is small cord of hemp of appropriate length, its tension, and the consequent curvature of the bow, depending upon the degree of twist given to it before the bow is bent.

The kind of bamboo in use for bows, is peculiar to the hills, and is remarkable for its elasticity and strength; they are made of a split piece, or two pieces united by bands together, the smooth surface being placed without. The string is drawn by the thump, armed with a ring of bone, or a piece of thick leathe, bent round it, and the forefinger crossed upon the nail, serves to give additional force to the operation.

The arrow is formed of species of dwarf bamboo, produced also among these mountains: it is headed by a flattened barb of pointed iron, the sides of which are sometimes grooved, or (which appears to answer the same purpose) the barb on either side is a little turned back, to admit the lodgment of poison; with which deadly substance, I was sorry to hear, it is sometimes charged.


Rosner, V. 1967. Archery in Bhutan. Anthropos 62. Sivut 419-32.

There are two kinds of bows used by the Bhutanese. The hunting bow of two pieces of bamboo, held together by two iron bands, is known, as the tapzhu. The Bhutanese name indicates a folding bow which makes for easy transportation.
[...]
The zhu is the bow the Drutpa use for the sport of archery in Bhutan. It is a single stave and of bamboo.
[...]
The average overall length of the unbraced sporting bow is 72,5 cm. The weight varies between 490 and 500 gramms. The bow tapers from 5 cm. in circumference, measured from the end of the lower horn, to 1 cm. at the tip of the uppern horn. [...] At its broadest part, the belly of the bow, the zhu measures 3.5 cm. in width. It is here that the grip byanshi of light willow wood 20.5 to 24 cm. in length and 3.5 cm. in width is attached. This grip is attached to the belly of the bow by means of copper wire or jute fibre.
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The bow string (zhu tha) for the sporting and hunting bow is obtianed from the fibre of the giant stinging nettle known locally as sisnu or cho.
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This bow string has o stand the strain of anything up to 60 lb. drawn with a cast of 120 yards.
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The length of the the or sporting arrow is 80 cm. It weights between 20 and 25 gramms. The shaft is made from reed (nema) obtained like the bamboo for the bows from the foothills of Bhutan.


Montmollin, M.d. 1982. Collection du Bhoutan: Catalogue. Musée d?ethnographie, Neuchâtel. Sivut 148, 155.

De meme que l'arc photographie in situ (ill. p. 149), l'arc 68.4.44 (dz. tapzhu) se compose de deux pieces de bambou. Il est accompagne du carquois 68.4.43 (sore), en vannerie, et de six fleches (dha) dont le futde roseau (rema) comporte un empennage de plumes de faisan (kalij, Gennaeus leucomelaus melanotus, les pointes du fer sont fixees a l'aide de cire (lachu).

58.4.43a-h. Carquois (dz. sore). Vannerie polychrome. H.: 68 cm. 6 fleches (dz. dha).
68.4.44. Arc (dz. tapzhu). 2 pieces de Bambou (dz. shusi), bridees de laiton. La corde manque. L.: 171 cm.
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